Scott Barry Kaufman is among the top 1% most cited scientists in the world for his groundbreaking research on intelligence, creativity, and human potential. Dr. Kaufman hosts the #1 psychology podcast in the world and has published 10 books.

He’s also one of my longest-running friendships, dating back to 6th grade, when I lent him a pencil in English class. And as much as I would love to think that pencil somehow led him to his love of psychology that made him so famous and popular… well, that’s probably a stretch.

And now, when he asked if he could interview me for his newsletter “Beautiful Minds” about what goes into writing a sci-fi novel, I assumed he was kidding and sidestepped it for probably close to a year.

Eventually, I realized he was serious, so we got to have this amazing conversation.

Check it out on Scott’s Substack!